In this convo, I backstab John after Lydia tells me what Steph's prize is...
Brendan 9:45 pm
hey
Lydia 9:46 pm
hellooo
how are you?
Brendan 9:46 pm
i feel... safe1
lol
Lydia 9:46 pm
ohmagawd me too! =-O
lol
Brendan 9:46 pm
lol
i'm guessing you read the results huh?
lol
i kinda figured jp and steph would be up for elimination
Lydia 9:46 pm
mhm.
at least it looks like Steph got a chance to submit it
Brendan 9:47 pm
yea she did
thought she wouldn't have submitted anything
Lydia 9:47 pm
i feel like it is a pretty easy vote anyway tonight. J.P. should obviously go. It is strategic because he will not be helping us beat Natalie and Frosti in the next two immunity challenges. Hell, he isn't even around.
Brendan 9:47 pm
i agree
whew
lol
was hoping we didn't disagree
Lydia 9:48 pm
J.P. doesn't deserve to be here anymore if he is just going to be inactive
Brendan 9:48 pm
i'm also thinking about the end game too about who will vote for who if we are on jury
exactly
i think that this challenge was designed to get rid of JP too lol
Lydia 9:48 pm
LOL
i think it was designed to switch things up for sure
Even had Frosti or Natalie been up against J.P., i would feel like J.P. would have to go
Brendan 9:49 pm
yea, like "how bad do you want it"
i'm not sure
i think i would've wanted to vote out natalie or frosti
Brendan 9:49 pm
well, let me ask you. Do you think there is going to be a final 2 or final 3? I'm just not sure
Lydia 9:50 pm
A final 3 with a jury of 7, in my opinion.
Brendan 9:50 pm
because sandy is a juror. In survivor china, 3 finalists, 7 jurors.... in fans v favorites... 8 jurors, 2 finalists
it could be either combination
Lydia 9:50 pm
FvF was only 8 jurors bc of James being medically evacuated
they didn't want to have 5 days without a Tribal Council
Brendan 9:50 pm
ohhhh
okay
learn something new every day
Lydia 9:50 pm
8 jurors makes it too risky for a tie, i think.
I'm a Survivor nerd. LOL
Brendan 9:51 pm
lol i am too but i started really getting into it back in vanuatu
Lydia 9:51 pm
I started in Borneo. That could just be bc i'm old.
Brendan 9:51 pm
anyways, i'm thinking about final 3 situations if a guana is next to any of us (which shouldn't happen anyways). It's important for the 5 of us to make final 5 because if a guana is sitting next to two altamira, they have 3 votes automaticallly and maybe JP because of all that drama
i wish i would've started in borneo lol
Lydia 9:52 pm
Oh, i know. Natalie and Frosti cannot make the finals.
Hell, if they made the finals, even I would vote for them!
I'd vote for them to win if they were in the finals and I was sitting next to them! LOL
Brendan 9:52 pm
i know, because we would've had to vote each othe roff
haha
so because you're a nerd, you know as well as i do that if a minority tribe member makes the finals, they have the best chance of winning
lol
Lydia 9:53 pm
Mhm. I'm not making a Guatemala mistake. Or a Samoa mistake. Or a Tocantins mistake. Or a Gabon mistake.
or a mistake like all the other seasons that it happened. LOL
Brendan 9:54 pm
danni... jt, natalie
i forget samoa
Brendan 9:54 pm
haha
or vanuatu
Lydia 9:54 pm
mhm
Brendan 9:54 pm
i feel good we're on the same page
it's like we share one brain lol
Lydia 9:54 pm
I think you're psychic. :-P
Brendan 9:54 pm
or we're both equally paranoid lol
Lydia 9:55 pm
hey, we make a good team. ;-)
if i tell u something...it HAS to stay between the both of us.
like cross your heart hope to die. lol
bc it is BIG.
Brendan 9:56 pm
u got me paranoid again
lol
Lydia 9:56 pm
well, just promise me it will stay between us.
Brendan 9:56 pm
i promise
Lydia 9:56 pm
I know what Steph's item is.
It isn't the same as Natalie's.
Brendan 9:56 pm
oooh
Lydia 9:56 pm
It is called the sapphire star.
Brendan 9:57 pm
wow
what does it do?
Lydia 9:57 pm
and it is more powerful than natalie's. Hell, it is more powerful than a hidden immunity idol.
Brendan 9:57 pm
oh wow
Lydia 9:57 pm
When she uses it at Tribal Council, all votes are nullified except for hers.
Brendan 9:57 pm
OMG
Lydia 9:57 pm
so basically, she would get the sole vote to vote someone out of this game.
Brendan 9:57 pm
wow
i think she and i are on good terms so i hope it wouldn't be me
Lydia 9:58 pm
oh, i know.
Brendan 9:58 pm
well, let me show you this pm i sent her (i didn't show anyone else this)
Lydia 9:58 pm
I was surprised she told me but it kinda let me know it wouldn't be used against me
Brendan 9:58 pm
Hey stephenie. It is VERY important that you compete in this immunity challenge. There are six immunity idols, so six of 8 people will be immuned. It is a puzzle challenge and whoever does the puzzle in the fastest time wins immunity (not pm's fastest). Only 2 people will be on the chopping block. I really don't want to see you (or any of the porno alliance lol) on the chopping block. I don't know if you got any hidden immunity from exile island, but if you can't compete in this challenge, now would be a good time to use it if you have anything like Natalie did. If not, you HAVE to do this challenge! I know you said you were going to the beach, so I'm just trying to look out for you while you're gone. I really hope you're able to see this before you go to the beach so you can try to do the puzzle in the fastest time possible.
Have fun at the beach!
Lydia 9:59 pm
when she told me, if i remember correctly, she sorta hinted at it possibly being John's demise.
Brendan 10:00 pm
that would be very interesting... considering he told all of us about his two vote nullification
Lydia 10:00 pm
anyway, I don't think it would be used against us, but I figured you should know.
Brendan 10:00 pm
thank you
that really means a lot that you told me
and i'm not just saying that but i got good vibes from you and from steph
me and her had a good convo about being paranoid in this game and talked about different situations happening during the merge like i talked about with you
it made me feel confident she was a loyal person
Lydia 10:01 pm
i feel like she is too. She seems very genuine.
Honestly, you, Stephenie, and Jenna as well were the three that I felt like I bonded with from the very beginning
You are the ones I want to see in the final four with me.
Brendan 10:02 pm
i bonded with jenna too but i haven't really talked to her as much any more. I stilll like her
Lydia 10:02 pm
I don't talk to her as much as you and Stephenie, but I don't think she would turn her back on us.
Brendan 10:03 pm
i don't think so either
but i got a weird feeling from her when she told me to stop being paranoid
Lydia 10:03 pm
John kind of worries me with that sometimes, to be honest.
Brendan 10:03 pm
he worries me too
Lydia 10:03 pm
i feel like if anyone were to turn, it would be him
and I think Jenna told you to stop being paranoid because she is so like...never paranoid. I think she is very laid back, and I think she feels very comfortable with her position since our tribe has the majority right now.
Brendan 10:05 pm
but that worries me
when someone seems to be comfortable you know?
unless they know stuff you don't
Lydia 10:06 pm
(Frosti PMed me and asked me about the vote. I told him J.P. I don't think there is any reason to hide it.)
I feel like maybe she isn't as invested in this as we are. She could be in multiple games or something. There are many explanations to it.
Brendan 10:06 pm
wonder why no one pm's me
except sandy lol
Lydia 10:06 pm
LOL
I PMed Sandy, Frosti, Natalie, and Austin when we merged and said Hello
Brendan 10:07 pm
i didn't lol
Lydia 10:07 pm
Frosti has PMed me right before Tribal Council ever since. LOL
Brendan 10:08 pm
I want to tell you stuff too... like what you told me with steph... and it's stuff I've been WANTING to tell someone I could trust
but it's big too
Lydia 10:09 pm
I can keep it between us since you are doing the same for me with the Steph thing
Brendan 10:09 pm
promise?
Lydia 10:09 pm
promise.
Brendan 10:09 pm
because this could be the demise of me in this game if I trust the wrong person
did you happen to read sandy's goodbye message?
Lydia 10:10 pm
Yes.
Lydia 10:10 pm
I replied to it, but it got deleted by Sara. LOL
Brendan 10:10 pm
John approached me day 1 and asked for an alliance
I didn't want to cause any waves between anyone in the game so i just agreed
let me see if i can find the convo
Lydia 10:11 pm
day 1? LOL
Brendan 10:11 pm
day 1 or first convo we had
he just immediately asks for it
Lydia 10:11 pm
ew, i hate when ppl do that.
Brendan 10:11 pm
yea
i found it
(by the way, i post all my aim convos in my confessional)
Brendan 10:12 pm
here is the very first time i had contact with john
John Kenney 8:33 pm
hey
Brendan
it's John
Brendan 8:33 pm
hey john
nice to finally get a chance to talk to you
John Kenney 8:33 pm
you too
Brendan 8:33 pm
or at least someone lol, i haven't talked to anyone on AIM yet
John Kenney 8:33 pm
me either
Brendan 8:34 pm
that makes me feel better. I feel like we're a tribe that doesn't have good communication with each other
John Kenney 8:34 pm
yea well i only communicate with people I'm alligned with
and right now thats no one
Brendan 8:34 pm
lol
i know how you feel
i'm not aligned with anyone either
John Kenney 8:34 pm
actually thats the reason i contacted ya
Brendan 8:35 pm
oh
John Kenney 8:35 pm
i figured the hotteat guys gotta stick together
Brendan 8:35 pm
i'll feel you on that
but i think this tribal is going to be an easy one for the tribe
John Kenney 8:35 pm
Peter
Brendan 8:36 pm
of course, i voted him off as soon as tribal was posted lol
Lydia 10:13 pm
"I only communicate with people I'm aligned with." ?
Brendan 10:13 pm
yea
Lydia 10:13 pm
That is basically the reason he would have been voted out had our tribe lost again. LOL
Brendan 10:13 pm
lol
but if you read into the quote... he's been talking to the other tribe too
When Sandy posted her goodbye message, she said jenna was worried because me and john had an alliance
and i kept that to myself this entire game so far
so I'm wondering how did Jenna know this?
when I asked John about it, he said Sandy probably made it up
Lydia 10:14 pm
Something tells me John communicates with the other tribe a lot more than the rest of us
Brendan 10:14 pm
and you're going to see in my confessional rigth before that convo i said this in there... "The following convo is between me and John. He obviously is not trustworthy, but I may be able to take the "leech" approach and just latch onto him"
Lydia 10:15 pm
I think he is kissing up for jury votes, personally.
Brendan 10:15 pm
probably
he also told me he plays lots of these games
and he knew Austin... and jenna knew austin
and neither one liked him
the only two alliances that i have in this game were the porno alliance which i'm loyal to, and the one with john, which i haven't trusted since day 1
Brendan 10:17 pm
it's been bugging me since he talked to me and i haven't been able to tell anyone you know? And if i tell someone, they think I'm untrustworthy and vote me off... so i just waited until i could tell someone i coudl trust
Lydia 10:17 pm
I think it is not fair how John did nothing pre-merge and now he is seeming like he is this leader of our tribe
Brendan 10:17 pm
it's important you don't tell jenna, steph, or anyone else right now
Lydia 10:17 pm
I won't tell anyone or use it against u
Brendan 10:17 pm
thank you
Lydia 10:18 pm
but to be honest, i think ppl know about ur alliance with John
Brendan 10:18 pm
so he has talked to me before the merge, but we had such short convos and i just tried to keep my mouth shut
Lydia 10:18 pm
Jenna has brought it up to me before
Brendan 10:18 pm
but was it speculation though?
because the way sandy phrased it was, she doesn't speculate, she knows
and i feel if anything gets back to jenna, she'll go tell john
Lydia 10:19 pm
well she has talked about being annoyed with John before and was all like
"Well, there's no way we can get rid of John before the final 5 bc Brendan def wouldn't go along with it."
Brendan 10:20 pm
i honestly don't know if i would've voted him out pre-merge
because of that alliance and if i voted him out, he would've blabbed and said i was untrustworhty
i was worried that john wanted to keep JP
because he said the guys need to stick together
Lydia 10:21 pm
so he was basically trying to form a male alliance?
Brendan 10:21 pm
i don't know
Brendan 10:21 pm
but john did get a vote at the first tribal
which very well could've been JP
i thought it was a self vote
just to make it look like he had a target on his back but i don't know if it was or not
i never brought it up
Lydia 10:22 pm
i think it would have said self-vote under it
Brendan 10:22 pm
true
Lydia 10:22 pm
cuz Peter's did i think
Brendan 10:22 pm
i don't remember
Lydia 10:22 pm
me neither
damn Sara locking these tribals after we leave. LOL
Brendan 10:22 pm
i know lol
Lydia 10:23 pm
makes sense tho, i guess.
on the show, they can't wander back to Tribal Council to remember what happened
Brendan 10:23 pm
no they can't
i couldn't do that at my other survivor game either
Lydia 10:23 pm
which is why I think the tie-breaker in the event of a tie would be self-votes
Brendan 10:23 pm
hmm
Lydia 10:23 pm
i mean previous votes cast against them
Brendan 10:24 pm
yea, i've seen that before in my last game too llol - it was one of the strongest players demise
Lydia 10:24 pm
i feel like that is the most fair tie-breaker. I don't like how they don't use it anymore on the show
i think all ties should be broken by past votes except for the final 4 which should be fire building
Brendan 10:24 pm
i like the fire making challenge... especially the one between becky and sunday... oen of them ran out of matches lol
sundra*
Lydia 10:25 pm
i don't agree with the rock tie-breaker
Brendan 10:25 pm
me either
Brendan 10:25 pm
but i'm glad i was able to tell you what has been going on
Lydia 10:25 pm
yeah, thanks for letting me know.
Brendan 10:26 pm
if you do want to get rid of john, i'm not against it...
Lydia 10:26 pm
I kinda had a feeling something was going on with John, but I'm glad I know the whole story now
Brendan 10:26 pm
because i'm thinking about those 2 vote nullification
Lydia 10:26 pm
well, this is what i think
Frosti and Natalie go next after J.P. Then at the final 5, maybe we can tell Steph to use her sapphire star and get rid of John
Brendan 10:26 pm
i felt like i was trapped too you know? When someone approached you in your first convo and asks for an alliance, how do you trust them, but then again, if you backstab them... people think you are a liar... and it's just complicated. I hate getting suckered into those things.
i think so too
Lydia 10:28 pm
oh, i know
it is almost impossible to turn down an alliance just because if u say no then they will be after u
I totally get it.
Brendan 10:29 pm
and with you telling me about steph, it makes me feel much better about telling you
John very well could have been loyal, but I mean... day 1?
or actually, it's day 3 or 4 in my confessional lol
Lydia 10:29 pm
He's here to play the game strategically and physically -- not socially.
Brendan 10:30 pm
true... because he doesn't seem to have told anyone else on the tribe
Brendan 10:30 pm
I thought he might've... but I thought I'd wait
because then there would have been serious drama too early on
we made good decisions getting rid of peter and sierra and didn't need the added drama
Lydia 10:31 pm
We were very lucky that our tribe had easy Tribal Councils.
I don't think the other tribe did.
Brendan 10:31 pm
the other tribe seemed plagued with inactives too
i mean, it's not fair for the active people, but every one of these games has a value of luck you know?
Lydia 10:31 pm
mhm
I think Ashley was the only one from their tribe that went inactive, though.
Brendan 10:32 pm
true
Lydia 10:32 pm
and they kept her around bc they r dumb. LOL
Brendan 10:33 pm
lol
sandy even told me she voted off paschal
which confused me but i didn't question her about it
so i guess we just have to wait until the game's end
Lydia 10:33 pm
Yeah
I hope Sara makes some sort of voting history so i don't have to go through everyone's confessionals. I hate that.
Lydia 10:34 pm
I think she will since she made an intro for us
Brendan 10:34 pm
i think she will too
she seems really invested
sorry if i'm not talking but i'm going through my confessional right now
i posted a lot about how much i don't trust john and i'm starting to chuckle now
Lydia 10:36 pm
oh, it's okay! LOL
Brendan 10:36 pm
"I kinda feel like I'm dead man walking. This vacation is going to hurt me, but if John needs allies, he won't vote me off unless he's forced to. It's obvious John and JP suck at the social game because they can't keep up a conversation. However, this also means that they don't NEED to do any social talking because they have a big ass alliance already. It wouldn't surprise me if there is an alliance of 8 out there..."
Lydia 10:36 pm
I'm multi-tasking as well
Brendan 10:36 pm
that's just one excerpt
Lydia 10:37 pm
I can't wait to read ur confessional when this is all over. LOL. It seems like you write a ton
Brendan 10:37 pm
i have 90 posts in there
lol
i post EVERYTHING
convos.. (except one with john because i didn't have IM archive turned on) and most of my PM's
like the PM's i have with you are in there
Lydia 10:37 pm
i try to make a post before every Tribal Council
I don't include AIM convos and PMs tho
Brendan 10:38 pm
I do because someone might want the juicy details after the game
lol
i think sara does read them though
Lydia 10:38 pm
I guess I'm lazy. LOL
Brendan 10:38 pm
lol
Lydia 10:38 pm
i want to ask her for her AIM.
I want to be friends with her. LOL
Brendan 10:39 pm
lol
i'm glad when the host is so involved
it makes the game fun
and what's nice about this game is that it is fast paced
Lydia 10:39 pm
it is SO fast-paced
we never have a day without anything to do
Brendan 10:39 pm
i know it's great!
it's been less than 3 weeks i think and half the people are gone
and because i was on vacation, and the game was fast paced taht it was going to hurt me too
luckily i made a good impression on all of you :-)
Lydia 10:41 pm
Actually, today is the 2 week mark. LOL
Brendan 10:41 pm
wow
that's awesome
Lydia 10:41 pm
8 ppl gone in 14 days
Brendan 10:42 pm
so in less than 2 weeks, we'll have a winner
Lydia 10:42 pm
yep. Depends on how long final tribal goes.
assuming there is a final 3, we only have 5 tribal councils left
Brendan 10:42 pm
i hope it's a final 3
just one less vote to do if we make it that far
Lydia 10:43 pm
i honestly would be shocked if it were a final 2
Brendan 10:44 pm
right now, i'm going to go shower. I'll be back in about 10 15 minutes
Lydia 10:44 pm
Alright, I actually might be going anyway
Brendan 10:44 pm
okay, if I don't see you then, good night! and thanks for listening. :-)
Lydia 10:44 pm
I'm sure the kids will have me up early tomorrow morning as always, so I should get some sleep. LOL
Brendan 10:45 pm
lol
Lydia 10:45 pm
so goodnight! :-)
Brendan 10:45 pm
goodnight!