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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 28, 2010 14:17:28 GMT -5
Hello, Brendan and Lydia, and congratulations on making it to the Final 2. You two might not be the best overall players from my view of point, but you 2 are the ones sitting there, so props for that.
I will start saying that I am not thrilled to see either of you. I definitely was hoping to see Stephenie, because I believe she played the BEST game of you 3. Guess she came short, and now I'm stuck with you 2.
I am going to go with you first, Brendan. Honestly, you are not good at this game. You suck, and you suck HORRIBLY. Can you tell me a single decision you made in this game, please? You were a tool, seriously. And you are not the one who backstabbed John. Do you even know since when me and Lydia had in mind we'd want him out? I doubt it. And even if you do .. even worse for you. Also, even when you wanted him gone at 7, I stepped up and said no to Lydia and that we had to vote out Natalie. And what happened, can you tell me? You had no balls to step up and say that we should vote John at 7. You were terrible, really. And yes you were fake. I do believe your statement was really bad, after all you made it to the F2, give it a try. Also, you are fucking paranoid all the time. And you should know, I am not voting for a paranoid winner. That means I have to be PATHETIC to lose to someone like that. And yes, everyone is a loser besides the winner, so it doesn't mind you have higher placing. And what exactly hurts you, if I may ask? That someone called you fake, or a dead cat? Seriously, that's the truth. Your social game SUCKS. You may talk with people, but you lay low and keep whatever you have in mind to yourself. If your social game was good, you'd stand and say your opinion on the vote. You never did and went with the bandwagon. For that, you don't deserve my vote. You did slightly better than Lydia at the challenges, but that's it. Given the fact you had to rely on them to make it to the F2 .. well, that says a lot. And you get so hurt only by words, but what about actions? Have you thought about that? You're annoying the shit out of me how hurt you are every single time. Get over yourself. Who do you think you are? And, seriously, if it wasn't for me to show you the right path when you were paranoid ALL the time, I can't imagine what freak you would me. And then you dare to vote me out and not even have an opinion at F4. You'd vote everyone, seriously? That means you were a vote to grab, and that's really bad, because it means you are used. Props to Lydia for doing that. And we talked less and less, because of, well, YOU. As the game processed, you were doing worse and worse in my eyes.
Moving onto you, Lydia. The same exact statement that you never stood and said this and this have to go is going towards you. If anyone, I was that person. I did say Sandy had to go, and then I was the one that brought Austin. John didn't want him gone at F9, because of the challenge, but I did. And I said that we should keep John 1 round before we blindside him. And you know I came up with the original idea of it. So if anyone had the guns to stand and say something, it was me. You sat back and just talked with people. However, I give you props for voting me out at F4. But, there are more cons to it. You and Steph talked the most, that's what was really stupid to me. Thanks for having interest in talking with me, then. Knowing Steph barely got on AIM, you could have had the chance to talk me whenever you wanted. But you never did, so yeah, thanks. This may cost you my vote, because I don't see why I should look over it. And you talked with Steph just to inform what was going on, and don't even try to tell me it was otherwise. Also, compared to Brendan, you were weaker in challenges. However, you had a better social game than he did, and were definitely a cooler person to talk with. And you made him vote me out at F4, which means you stepped up and said who should go. Knowing he never did that, that's a huge pron to you over him. Also, you were never paranoid, and I totally like that.
So overall:
Brendan, you do NOT deserve to win over Lydia. And that's based on gameplay. You were horrible, and you are in the F2 because you were a challenge monster tool. That's it. You have NO arguments to prove me wrong, and I know it. Oh, and please don't act you are so hurt, because that's pathetic. This games are NOT personal, but you take them too personally. How come? You should know this is very annoying. And you should know, taking either Stephenie or Lydia, it'd be their win to lose. You can not be compared to either in terms of who should win.
Lydia, you just used people left and right, and I give you credit for that. But to me, for the most part, you stayed back and weren't a powerhouse at all. Overall, you are not the best player in this game, but you are better than Brendan. And at this finale I am going to vote for the better player between you 2.
Here's my ranking so far:
1. Social - Lydia 2. Strategy - Lydia 3. Challenges - Brendan (but Lydia is close in this one) 4. My personal bias - Lydia
So right now, it's 3.2 to 0.8 for Lydia to get my vote. This means my vote is Lydia's vote to lose.
Onto my questions: Brendan, as you can see, you are losing my vote at the moment. I'd like you to prove me how you were better at strategy and socially than Lydia was. If you could, you may get back in the run for my vote. You should know you can't get my personal bias, so do your best. Also, we talked less and less because your ass wasn't on for the most part. And I know that for a fact.
Lydia, do explain me how come you talked more with Steph than with me. Because it DOES seem you talked more with her just via PMs, which means you didn't care to take the time and talk with me when I were on AIM for a long time. You should know, I highly consider not giving you my vote for that sole reason. I do hate people ignoring me, and that's exactly what you did. So, be careful, becuase, as you know, this is your vote to lose.
To both: I want you to give all the jurors a part of person's HEAD. This question is extremly important, so I advise you to think a lot about it.
Also, I want you to describe all the Jurors as a cartoon character, so be creative with this one. I do love creativity, so if you do good, better for you.
I am sorry for this rant, but I really did want to say all of this. I wish you both the best of luck, and I pray to God that the better one wins. So, do your best to prove me you are that person, because that's what my vote will be based on.
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Post by Natalie Bolton on Aug 28, 2010 15:11:58 GMT -5
That was amazing Jenna <3
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Post by Lydia Morales on Aug 28, 2010 15:39:06 GMT -5
First of all, Jenna, I want to reply to your statement about me just sitting back and never standing up and saying what I wanted to happen and "just talking to people". I think that is absolute bull, to be honest. First of all, you should know that every single tribal council, we all discussed different scenarios. There was not one person, including yourself, who stood up and told us what to do. All of us threw in different ideas, and all of us discussed the vote. There was no leader of our alliance. You did not come up with all of the ideas. I wanted John gone just as much as you did. I said Sandy was scrambling too much, just as you did. I wanted Austin gone because of how John was standing up for him, just as you did. And I discussed all of this with you. So you should know I did not sit back and wait for someone to tell me what to do.
I never ignored you. If anything, I felt you were ignoring me. It was not until the merge that our whole tribe really started using AIM as a major form of communication. Up until that point, I was mainly just PMing everyone. There were several occasions where you did not reply to my PMs at all, or you took several days to reply. And I wasn't going to just keep sending you PMs to spark up conversation. Steph and I must have exhanged like 50 PMs each back and forth pre-merge. We didn't just talk game. We talked about personal things, and we talked about Survivor. We talked about everything. So, I had bonded extremely close to Stephenie before I bonded with you.
After the merge, Stephenie went on vacation. So, yes, post-merge I did talk more to you, Brendan, and John. However, I still had made the bond with Stephenie pre-merge, and I still felt most loyal to her after that.
Stephenie - ears - Stephenie always listened to what we all had to say, and she stuck loyal to us throughout the whole game.
Jenna - nose - I felt like you were always "sniffing out" the situation, deciding what the best move was to make, and moving on from there.
Frosti - cheek - I compare him to this simply because it seemed like we kind of all turned our cheek on Frosti and forgot he was there for a while. We originally almost voted him out first from the merge, but he escaped that and made it a lot further.
John - eyes - he was constantly talking to the other side, and he was kinda the eyes for us on what was going on over there.
Natalie - mouth - Natalie was definitely trying everything she could to make it further in the game, and she was always talking to us and trying to figure out what was going on.
J.P. - forehead - just because the forehead doesn't really do anything, and J.P. went inactive.
Austin - tongue - I think the tongue is supposedly the strongest muscle in the body or something like that. We voted out Austin because he was seen as too strong and too threatening.
Sandy - Chin - After she was voted out, Sandy stuck up her chin and started trying to bash those who were still in the game.
Stephenie - Betty Boop - Because Stephenie was always so risque in the chatrooms! Lol!
Jenna - Velma ("Scooby Doo") - Because you always tried to do what you thought was smartest, just as Velma always did.
Frosti - Invisible Woman - Only because he was supposed to go first, but then we forgot about him as if he had went invisible!
John - The Hulk - By far the strongest of the original Altamira tribe members.
Natalie - Helga ("Hey Arnold") - Helga could stand up and be a total bitch. this is similar to what Natalie did when she knew she was being voted out. However, she also had a soft side, and Natalie seemed nice throughout the rest of the game.
J.P. - The Road Runner - It seemed like J.P. "ran away" from the game and went inactive.
Austin - The Crimson Chin ("Fairly Odd Parents") - He was a superhero in the comic book Timmy always read. He was strong, like we perceived Austin to be, which is ultimately why we voted him out.
Sandy - Angelica ("Rugrats") - Angelica bullied the rest of the babies. This is similar to what Sandy did after she was voted out.
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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 28, 2010 15:57:46 GMT -5
Alright, I see the part with Stephenie, and it's totally understandable. However, about the TCs, you are completely wrong. You did NOT want Sandy gone at all, because you weren't sure if the Jury would start now and because of what she told both of us. Then, I did tell John I wanted Austin gone, and you thought John was being power player post merge because he brought it up. But his original target never really was Austin. We all disscussed it, beacuse, well, it was inevitable. Maybe i didn't say it correctly on above, but the pecking order wasn't exactly the one you wanted. You did want John out just as much as me, but you never told me we should do it at F7 (when you kind of wanted it a lot), but instead went with Natalie. It didn't really matter when he left, so I see where you are coming from, but it seemed you wanted him out bad at F7, but you just were fine at it being F6 as well. That's what I kind of didn't like, not that it's something else. I'm sorry if I am being somewhat bitchy, but I want it all clear, it has to be. I think I may something else to ask, but I will think about it. And, really, it's no hard feelings for me. It's just what I believed happened. It's like if Brendan said it was no one's idea to vote me out at F4, when it was clearly yours.
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Post by Lydia Morales on Aug 28, 2010 23:34:10 GMT -5
Well it just kinda sounded like you were trying to say you told us what to do, and we all followed and that was definitely not the case. Every move made was heavily discussed between our alliance. And I did want Sandy gone after we realized the stunt her and Natalie were trying to pull by trying to get us to turn on J.P. Sorry for the reaction.
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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 29, 2010 10:35:57 GMT -5
That definitely was not the case, that I told you what to do. It was like I brought the names, and then it was disscussed. That's what I meant. And for the most of the time, whoever I brought was sent packing. And no problem about your reaction, I saw it coming after what I said. xP
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Post by Brendan Synnott on Aug 29, 2010 22:37:01 GMT -5
This took a while, but I also wanted to say some other things. Forgive me if I repeat a lot of things.
I could have told John to use his power and vote with him if I wanted to. That is a backstab to John. If I were to tell him that, the vote probably would have been 3-1 to send Stephenie to jury. At final seven, I wasn’t dead set on sending John home. I was considering it. To me, it was a bad time to do anything because Stephenie was on vacation.
I don’t think it’s a bad quality to be paranoid. In fact, when telling about my suspicions to you, Lydia, and Steph, I could get a read of what is going on. You were confident in your position which was worrisome to me. If you didn’t want me to be suspicious of anyone on Altamira, it possibly meant you did not want anything to ruin a secret alliance on Altamira. I also like to think of paranoid qualities being alert and cautious, not immediately diving into something without thinking about the consequences.
Being paranoid was real. I’ve played my fair share of these org games before. I know that friendships develop on these sites and enemies are made. If people find out who is who from another game, it affects people in this game. I’ve been in situations before where I immediately tell people who I am, and boom, first one voted off. For example, Austin told John that he knew him. John knew him from another game and didn’t trust him. Things like that happen. Also, if two people go into a game together and end up on separate tribes, survive, and make merge, one could easily flip to another tribe. It was a possibility. I thought of two possibilities from our conversation Jenna about someone flipping and my paranoia. 1) You were comfortable with people in Guananico, or 2) you were comfortable with other people in Altamira since we did not have an alliance. After the first person left at merge, I knew it wasn’t the former. However, I wasn’t sure if it was the latter so I backtracked quickly in our next conversation in case it was. I wasn’t suspicious of a woman’s alliance at this time. You said that you calmed me down so I wouldn’t freak on you, but I lied to you when I told you that I was not paranoid any more. I tried to erase any threat seen in me if there was an alliance by saying you were right. If I was not paranoid, I don’t believe I would have been here. I just would have stayed loyal to John and be eventually voted out. I knew the consequences of saying what my fears were, so I had to pretend that I was not paranoid any more. If I continued to be paranoid with you, you might’ve found a way to get me out earlier in the game.
I did more than “slightly” better than Lydia when it came to individual immunity. One of the competitions Lydia won, at final 5, was complete luck. The luck factor in the final 8, 6, 4, and 3 was not there. I won three and came in first in the final 8 immunity. From every scenario I could see (and I talk about this later), immunity was my only shot to make it to the final 2 and have a shot at winning. If I know I have a good shot to win immunity, why not take the risk?
I have no problem admitting I was fake in gameplay aspects to people. I lied didn’t I? I didn’t want anyone to know what I was really thinking. However, I was not fake when saying that I liked talking to you, and I thought you were genuinely not fake when you reciprocated positively. I thought the PM was suspicious after I won immunity, but I felt bad especially when I saw your comment. My immediate reaction was that maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Then as I thought about it, that pm you sent right after immunity made no sense if there wasn’t an alliance. Also, Steph said, “Love ya girl.” I thought that was odd if you didn’t talk to her much. Maybe alliance? Of course because of me being emotional, I just didn’t want to have to go through another tribal like that where I’m attacked. It’s a weakness. We all have them. You just can’t let your weakness hinder your ability to compete and my job at that time was to win immunity. I’m not hurt any more since now that I know for sure of your three person alliance on Altamira, and that I was a target for you. Natalie’s comment never hurt me. I never talked to her, so why let that bother me? The only reason I brought that comment up was specifically jury vote related.
Initially, I was going to vote you at final 4, but I also wanted to talk to you. I thought about previous challenges where you were active, and also remembered that you came in 3rd at the final 8 immunity challenge. I thought Stephenie might not be as strong in the final 3. I thought you were voting for Stephenie, and that Lydia and Stephenie were voting for you, and my vote really didn’t matter unless I voted Stephenie to send it to a tie. I figured this right after I won immunity at final 4. The reason I also said I considered voting for everyone was to try and confirm what I already thought. I knew Lydia wasn’t going anywhere in the final 4 so I could have voted for anyone and it wouldn’t have mattered. She would still be there.
My goal was to have someone who was disliked by people sitting next to me in the finals because I predicted I wasn’t going to have many friends in jury. When I read Sandy’s goodbye, I knew that Lydia was going to be the best person to sit next to. John also said he wanted Lydia out, and Natalie then decides to attack Lydia right before she’s voted out. I accomplished my goal to get to the final 2 with her. I’m not going to deny that Lydia played a good social game, but we both used each other.
I knew that the way the pieces were falling in this game that survival depended on winning challenges and staying with the power in the game. If you go against the power, the power gets used against you, and then I’m sitting where you are. Lydia is right, she didn’t need to make bold moves. She made it to the end basically with her social game.
I want to say I was more cautious than flat out paranoid in this game trying to figure out who was aligned. I never went to anyone to offer a final 2 or final 3 alliance. I discussed things with Lydia but we never made anything official. In fact, I think she overplayed her social game and went too hard when she didn’t need to. If she wouldn’t have told me about Stephenie’s power, I would have voted with John. Then, I wouldn’t have trusted any of you when John was voted out and tried to win the final 5 immunity on my own. That immunity ended up being a crap shoot which I figured another one was coming. Because Lydia did tell me about a power, and I was basically a “fourth,” all four of us worked together on that immunity challenge and ousted Frosti. Any of you could have easily gotten me out then when Lydia had immunity. I was honestly surprised when no one shot all their darts at A, the one I told you all I chose. I knew at that point since none of you tried to bring the dart challenge to a tie breaker, that I was going to final 4. Showing complete loyalty to the women of Altamira made me final 4. Staying loyal to John didn’t guarantee final 4 or even final 5. I still don’t know if the power was real, but being cautious of the power catapulted me to final 2.
I also like to think about scenarios. Here I am in a two person alliance with John who I don’t trust and there is Lydia, Stephenie, and Jenna on the same tribe who have not approached me for an alliance. There’s JP who is missing in action, and 4 Guananico tribemates. I couldn’t go to the finals with anyone from Guananico and I think everyone on Altamira realized that for their own game. Because of that, 4 possible alliances are out the window. Can’t align with JP because he’s not there. I didn’t know if I could align with Jenna, Steph, or Lydia. So now that I’ve got that in my mind, I figured I’m playing for second place, and need to look for options. I also was still distrustful of John. My #1 priority was having someone in the finals who was disliked. Lydia was the perfect person to go to the finals with, then when she approached me at final 7 and told me what was going on, of course I jump ship. John would have won if we were in the final 2. I still win challenges, but I’m not looked at as strong, and he would have been the brains. So as soon as Lydia told me the information, I knew I had to switch up who I vote with so that I have a chance at the final 2.
Lydia and I were in different positions in the game. She was in more of a position of power than I was and that is the way the pieces fell. I really had no control over that. I did have control over what I could do. Lydia didn’t have to make bold moves, but she didn’t have to overplay her hand and try and get me to come in as a fourth player to your alliance. I don’t think it was your idea to take me since you said I was worse and worse in your eyes.
You said you were the one who wanted John gone. That wouldn’t have mattered if I was with you or not. So from my viewpoint and seeing what I know, and it still could be inaccurate, Lydia ruined your game when she brought me the knowledge of voting out John and the power. If the reason I was still being taken along was because I was weak, that was a mistake. I was active, came in first in the puzzle challenge, and beat John in the immunity where we raced.
You said it was Steph’s or Lydia’s win to lose no matter who I took. I figured that as much which is why I took Lydia, to try and give myself the best shot possible. Lydia said she was going to take Stephenie if she won the final immunity challenge. I can respect someone being loyal, but that was a losing strategy. She even posted a higher score than Stephenie did on the final challenge. So when you think about it, why would such a great strategist take someone who they knew they were going to lose against? It makes no sense to me. It just seems like a strategy to get to final 2, then what, let Stephenie win? I didn’t know if I would win or lose against Lydia, but it was the best choice. I didn’t rely on getting lucky with immunity, I relied on a pattern of what kind of immunity challenges the last two usually are. I knew how I was perceived and had to figure out what is the best possible route to win.
Jenna, these games are personal. If they were not, you wouldn’t be upset with Lydia not talking to you. You wouldn’t be praying to God that the right person wins. I think God is more concerned with starving children in Africa. We’re put into positions in these games where we have to turn on each other where we don’t have to in the real world. And this game isn’t even for one million dollars, but there’s emotion coming from you about what I did and what Lydia did in this game. If these games aren’t personal, you wouldn’t have a rant and your question would be bland. I know this may cost a jury vote because I’m arguing with you. The reason I take these games very personal is because behind each of these computers is someone who may be going through a difficult time in their life. I knew that feelings would be hurt, and I was hoping in your life that nothing bad was happening because you said you were sick and had a family emergency not too long ago in this game. I know it sounds hypocritical that I say I care considering that I voted people out, but it is survivor and what we signed up for. And if these games are not personal, you would not respond with any emotion, any insults, or personal bias for Lydia or me.
I think I’m someone who understands the power of words. Words destroy reputations. Words can spread rumors. Words form alliances. Words aren’t the same as hitting someone in the head with a hammer, but they have the power to hurt emotionally. I know that’s my flaw in these games. I’ve been voted out of these games before. I know the feeling. It’s horrible. I can understand you saying all this. But, if you’ve never been hurt by words, Jenna, I applaud you because you would be the first person I met like that.
Who do I think I am? I’m a survivor contestant, and I played this game with the intention to make it as far as I could, just like everyone here. And I’m still fighting.
To both: I want you to give all the jurors a part of person's HEAD. This question is extremly important, so I advise you to think a lot about it.
Stephenie – ear, she listened clearly to those who talked to her.
Jenna – Eyes, she was able to see clearly with what she wanted to do in this game.
Frosti – teeth, he is able to make people show them by making them laugh with the jury question. Also you can’t see them if the mouth is closed. We really didn’t see Frosti except at final 10 and final 5.
John – The cerebellum, the cerebellum is important for motor skills, and john did a great job in immunity challenges including 119 posts in the first individual challenge, and did great in the other immunity challenges.
Natalie – Mouth, she loved to use it to stir up drama. Once she was gone, we saw the teeth (Frosti)
JP – hair, in men, it eventually falls out. We all knew eventually JP was going to be voted out.
Austin – Eyebrow/Unibrow, the unibrow is there but you don’t want it there. You have to get rid of your unibrow so that you have two eyebrows. Once we plucked the unibrow, two eyebrows remain, just like only 2 Guananico members remained after Austin.
Sandy – nose, she tried to sniff the cracks in the Altamira alliance.
Also, I want you to describe all the Jurors as a cartoon character, so be creative with this one. I do love creativity, so if you do good, better for you.
Stephenie – Jessica Rabbit from “Who framed Roger Rabbit?” I think she tried to make some of the guys sweat with the peanut butter and chocolate even though Jessica Rabbit would never do something like that! (But she would still make the guys sweat.)
Jenna – Brian from “Family Guy.” He’s not afraid to speak his mind. Out of all the Griffins, he seems the most level-headed and would tell Peter how stupid his idea is.
Frosti – Cosmo from “The Fairly Oddparents.” Cosmo is the most random cartoon character I have ever seen, and that was the most random question Frosti posted that I have seen (I haven’t forgotten about you Frosti! Still working on the question)
John – Skipper from “The Penguins of Madagascar.” He’s a strong leader.
Natalie – The Queen of Hearts from “Alice in Wonderland.” She wanted to portray herself as a villain in this game. Also, the phrase “Off with their heads!” sounds like something Natalie would say.
JP – The Cheshire Cat from “Alice in Wonderland”… he just … disappeared
Austin – Zoidberg from “Futurama.” Zoidberg thinks he is friends with everyone, but no one wants him around. In the game, Austin quickly found himself in the hot seat when he tried to befriend people.
Sandy – Lindsay from “Total Drama Island.” In the game, it seemed like Sandy wanted to act ditzy especially in her pm’s with all the “likes.”
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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 30, 2010 14:34:44 GMT -5
I am at this point, I will respond to others as well, but now I am onto this.
You like to think of scenarios? Seriously? Then that was the most pathetic answer I've seen. You were not brought because of anything you said. You were brought for a vote, because we liked John less than you. And obviously there were no other options. Cut the cockiness, because, you know, it does come out of nowhere.
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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 30, 2010 14:35:43 GMT -5
Oh, and you also better cut bashing Lydia at every point. It's not going to work, didn't you get that already? I am getting tired of it.
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Post by Jenna Morasca on Aug 30, 2010 14:46:07 GMT -5
Then you are too slow then, and considering voting with John would be completely stupid at this point. You say you figured there was a girl alliance. Then didn't you figure out we'd most likely use Steph's power in order to get John out? From your response, it seems that never crossed your mind. And whatever you say now (after it) will not matter anymore. And for you to consider all scenarios, having this as evidence you don't, is just poor. If that was your strategy, it had flaws. It might have brought you to the F2 (but it's not even because of it; it's barely because of the challenges) And to have flaws is not usually a good thing, after all you ARE trying to win. Do you think someone having so many flows deserves the win? I basically don't see many flows in Lydia's game. She knew she'd have to backstab people because of her alliances, but after all, she let you do the dirty work for the most part. And to me, this seems a way better strategy. Prove me wrong, and you'll be in the run for my vote.
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Post by Brendan Synnott on Aug 31, 2010 13:01:23 GMT -5
I guess I'll be truthful for once in this game. A lot of the stuff I said in response to you was mostly said out of anger. I wanted to try and win this, but I can't deny that Lydia had better strategy and social skills than I did. She deserves your vote.
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